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Subject: Racquetball "Marketing" Suggestion for 2001
Date: 19 Jan 2001 18:23:27 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
My first racquetball suggestion for 2001.
How To Create More Players at Clubs and Create a Larger USRA Member Base.
Non-USRA members do not play tournaments for the following reasons:
1) Cost.
2) Time involved, family or work.
3) Don't want to look bad when getting beat.
4) Not playing enough to feel confident to play.
Something is wrong if 6 million people play racquetball, but less than
half of
1 percent are USRA members.
If it is a "insurance issue", then the USRA should purchase
additional coverage
to allow non-members to participate in a "one-time" first tournament
for a few
bucks extra, and start running USRA clinics to non-USRA members and beginner
racquetball players.
Granted, the USRA does a fantastic job running national, international
tournaments and clinics for "elite players", but this has no
effect or help for
the average racquetball facility.
I think the USRA believes putting resources at the "elite"
end of racquetball
will somehow create "new" players who are interested in these
"elite" events.
Unfortunately the average recreational player and racquetball facility
manager
could care less, since the USRA has nothing to offer of value.
Sure, the magazine is nice, but only for those "really interested"
in
racquetball. It still is a luxury that players can live without since
most of
the names and articles have no interest to "recreational" players.
OK, enough USRA bashing… my suggestions to help solve
these problems.
1) Get a new insurance policy that covers additional new players at a
small
additional premium paid by new players.
2) Develop a fund to pay insurance cost to non-USRA members who participate
in
free clinics.
3) Charge a $7 (example) fee to first-time tournament players, which
includes
insurance and one free "special issue" of Racquetball Magazine
that was
published solely to "sell" new members.
The special issue of the Free Racquetball Magazine could be designed
to be
"dateless" and full of instructional help, advertising of companies
websites,
with articles of "recreational" players from all levels, ages
and backgrounds
with stories how they started playing.
In other words, the special issue would be at the "recreational"
level, similar
to how MTV advertises to kids.
Who would pay for the "cost" to publish this?
Racquetball companies, funding from the $500,000.00 annual USOC Racquetball
Promotional Funding and possibly IHRSA.
Two mailings could be arranged, one for "first-time" players
and a second with
a special "club manager" insert to be sent to all racquetball
facilities,
offering new programs and detailed information (cover letter).
The advertisers and IHRSA would have a free "piggyback" advertisement
included
in the "club" mailing.
This would be a "win-win" situation for all involved.
An ideal date for "club" mailing would be for August, including
information how
to contact local instructors and associations to host and schedule "free"
clinics during the clubs "fall" membership drives.
Have the local instructors and state associations then do follow-up calls,
with
an extra copy and printed information, just in case the club "trashed"
the
mailing.
The USRA has the resources; contacts, credibility and funding while the
local
states do all the "legwork" and provide staffing.
Imagine what things "could" be like if this was done a few
years ago?
Jordan
Subject: Re: Racquetball "Marketing" Suggestion for 2001
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:46:01 GMT
From: Lynn Stephen
Jordan said:
> <snip>
> Non-USRA members do not play tournaments for the following reasons:
>
> 1) Cost.
> 2) Time involved, family or work.
> 3) Don't want to look bad when getting beat.
> 4) Not playing enough to feel confident to play.
Texas and some other states are running one day shootouts which are
very popular and address all of these issues.
<snip>
>
> Have the local instructors and state associations then do follow-up
calls, with
> an extra copy and printed information, just in case the
club "trashed" the
> mailing.
>
> The USRA has the resources; contacts, credibility and funding while
the local
> states do all the "legwork" and provide staffing.
>
> Imagine what things "could" be like if this was done a
few years ago?
This would be great but in the real world State Board members are
volunteers and most are not willing to take on a lot of extra work. All
this "legwork" would probably fall on the State President and
I don't
think I could handle much more and still make a living.
The things we do in North Carolina that seem to work (10% increase in
membership last year)are:
We give every new member (not renewals) a membership pack when they
join up. This is instant gratification and answers the age old
question,"Just what am I getting for this $20 membership fee anyway?"
The pack consists of a canvas gym bag with our State logo on it, a t-
shirt with our logo, a can of Penn balls, a rulebook, the last 2 issues
of Racquetball Mag., the last 2 issues of our State newsletter, and any
other assorted goodies we can come up with. The USRA provides the
balls, mags, rulebooks, and some goodies for us. We do have to pay a
small amount for the rulebooks to help cover the cost of printing.
We also feel that to increase membership we have to let non-tournament
people know that our State organization exists. We have had 12" by
18"
signs(not posters) made with our State logo and our web site address on
them. We distributed these to all the clubs in the State. We support
all racquetball clubs here. Not just the ones that have tournaments.
I think you come up with some great ideas Jordan, but I would like to
hear about some things that are already in use by the States and how
they seem to be working. I think the one day shootouts would be a great
way to incorporate your idea on having a lower fee for first time
players since these tournaments don't give away shirts.
--
Lynn Stephens - President
North Carolina Racquetball Association
Subject: USTA
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 04:52:28 GMT
From: "JHard
I have never belonged to the USTA(United States Tennis Association) I
did
play some tennis in high school and briefly for a local college. My
daughter plays tennis for her school team. I think it is safe to say that
that is the extent of my tennis connections SO why am I receiveing a very
impressive flyer in the mail from the USTA encoraging me to join...
For 20 bucks I can become a card carrying USTA member and receive a years
subscription to Tennis Magazine and a t-shirt. Hmmmm
I figure the USTA got my name from a mailing list(I did order my kid
a new
racquet) but WOW what effort on the part of the USTA to reach out to me
and
probably thousands of others.
I used to belong to the USRA, havent been a member for some time now.
I
should be on thier mailing list somewhere. Aint ever heard from em.
JHard
(Jordan Kahn)
But Kathy, like others, feel a new direction is needed.
For as long as I remember, and have read about (early 70's), the leadership
of
racquetball awaits the coming of Olympics, TV or Pro Tours as the messiah
of
racquetball.
This is like a member of a large family not getting a job because they
think a
rich uncle will leave them a fortune.
By the time the USRA gets their act together, there will be few clubs
left, and
those will have few courts or expensive memberships.
I said this 20 years ago. Was I wrong?
What upsets us the most, it is the "head-in-the-sand" attitude
that everything
is OK, or getting better.
The only reason things look better at one club is because 2 clubs down
the
street closed, or converted courts.
The USRA needs to diversify NOW by sponsoring, promoting and being active
in
non-tournament racquetball events.
Yea, I know, it's the INSURANCE issue, that all players must be current
USRA
members to participate in any USRA sponsored event, even a free clinic
to new
players.
I wonder if during an Olympic Tournament, the USRA will check to see
if all the
players, of other countries, have paid their current USRA membership?
If there are 60 pro racquetball players, or 60 players competing in the
USA
racquetball Olympics, it is still only .001 percent of the 6 million
recreational players.
Or, in the TV ratings game, if 50 percent of all USRA members tuned in
to watch
racquetball, it would be less than 13,000 people, or smaller than most
sports
stadiums hold!
The "Olympic" dream IS BASED ON TV RATINGS.
If I were the person to decide on which sport gets into the Olympics,
it surely
would be based on the number of viewers and growth of that sport.
A decline in numbers, like racquetball, is a very bad sign.
My suggestions to fix racquetball?
Get a "sister" organization formed by the USRA to promote,
promote and promote,
to NON-USRA members through recreational FUN programs.
Do not use existing USRA staff, but split (yes split) the $500,000.00
annual
"Growth Fund" from the USOC directly into this new organization.
Have a 3-5 year goal, and target "groups" of cities at a time
through national
promotional campaigns.
You can build up the campaign to work into the National Championships
or US
Open, by giving "all expense paid vacations" through promotional
"raffles" at
participating facilities that offer non-tournament promotions.
I could go on, but that's the basic belief many of us have. Some are
just more
passionate in their views.
We are all stuck in the same "boat" adrift. The problem is
which way do we
steer?
Jordan
Subject: More youth racquetball ideas
Date: 09 Jan 2001 18:57:10 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
I just talked to two moms regarding scheduling some racquetball clinics
for
their Brownie Troops.
These are two different groups that happened to ask during the same week.
I have already done a Brownie Troop clinic last year at the same Park
District.
We had all 12 girls meet together while I went over the safety rules
and use of
equipment, eyeguards, wristthong, and keeping racquet by leg when waiting
turns.
We split the girls into two groups; one with me, and the other waited
and had
snacks in our snack room restaurant. Then both groups switched after 20
minutes.
Last year I did not charge a fee to the Brownie Troop, because the troop
leader
had 2 daughters in my current weekly classes.
This year we may start charging fees, though it will be up to my boss,
who this
year offered to pay me even though he was not going to charge the Brownie
Troops (nice boss).
These types of programs work great at our Park District, since we already
have
seasonal youth racquetball clinics, classes and teams "scheduled"
in our
seasonal brochures.
The best time to schedule any free clinic is just prior to classes starting.
And I ALWAYS offer free clinics, on the same day and time ONE WEEK prior
to
dates classes begin.
Facilities that do not have existing programs have a tougher time, since
there
must be lots of phone calls to arrange days and times that fit every ones
schedule (parents, kids and instructors).
For me personally, I "scheduled" weekly classes, 5-15 weeks,
since parents
(moms) prefer advanced planning for their family's busy schedules.
This works great, as an instructor, since there is better "job security"
and
bigger paychecks. Beats the heck out of scheduling one private lesson
here and
there.
Jordan
PS. Yesterday (Monday) I did a bunch of free clinics at the Park District.
I
got home about 9PM and had a phone message from a private club in the
area that
needed an instructor that evening for a Park District clinic (12 kids)
hosted
at their club.
As I said in the past, instructors, clubs and the USRA should put a major
marketing push into 3-8 year old activities. This has become a "major"
trend in
the fitness industry, which by chance I was doing a decade ago.
Subject: Re: usra leadership conference
Date: 02 Jan 2001 07:46:45 GMT
(Jordan Kahn)
Regarding Junior Programs
"What can we do as a community to help club owners see that a good
juniors
program is their racquetball future?"
Depending on the facility, and their policies towards "non-members",
there must
be a few programs available for each type of facility to select from.
There are no "one-size" fits all programs, and that is the
problem.
I teach racquetball to kids for a living, and have been doing "pre-school"
racquetball programs for 10 years.
The first thing I do when I visit to a club is look at their other pre-school
programs and youth programs.
Why?
A facility without existing programs for kids (or kids present) will
always be
harder to promote youth programs.
On the other hand, you must be careful not to "steal" kids
participating in
existing club programs, like tennis or basketball, since these are two
major
resources of income at private clubs, Park Districts, YMCA's and JCC's.
There are, like any business, lots of "Red-Tape" and personality
clashes at
health clubs.
What may be allowed for a "one-time" clinic may not be allowed
as a weekly
class or future program.
"Club Policies" regarding non-members are not usually flexible,
because if you
allow non-members to one department, like aerobics, basketball or tennis,
the
other departments want to do the same, which is too much trouble for most
facilities to work on.
What club managers want?
1) Make money.
2) Keep members happy
3) Not spend any money.
4) Not cause them any work or trouble.
Offering free racquetball clinics have a few problems, as club managers
see it:
1) Should not be free or lose money.
2) Losing "court time", members inconvenienced.
3) Losing guest fees for non-members participating.
But there are ways to work around these problems.
1) Talk to owners and ask when they run "membership promotions",
this is a good
time for non-members to participate since you are also selling the club.
Work
on the clubs schedule, not yours.
2) Work on a 6-9 month advanced timetable, which is what clubs normally
use.
3) Donate instructor's time while allowing club to charge members, this
puts
value on a program, even if it's only a few dollars a person. If the clubs
members are happy, or the club makes money, the club may want to offer
more
programs.
4) Become the "Middle-Man" between the local Park District
and the Local
Private Club. The club gets plenty of free advertisement while the park
district offers more programs. The club controls all registration and
may
include guest fees in programs. This works great to add "outside"
non-members
into programs with limited membership participation.
The key to make this work is learning what type of "policies"
the local
racquetball facility has.
Then you can "sell" the best program that fits that facility.
I have 20 years experience with all types of facilities, as a racquetball
director at a large YMCA, pro at "elite" expensive private clubs,
working and
teaching at big and small Park Districts.
All share the same handicap (listed above) of offering new programs.
The bottom-line for promoting juniors?
Go where the juniors are and start as young as possible!
By the age of 11-13, most kids stray away from recreational activities
because
of friends or school interests.
Good Luck at the Leadership Meeting!
Jordan
PS. On December 11, 2000, a Park District I teach at, had over 40 kids
registered for the next session of free clinics, classes and teams that
start
January 8, 2001.
While 40 kids may not be much, all 40 parents registered a month in advance
on
the first day of registration!
Subject: Re: usra leadership conference
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 19:43:09 -0500
From: "Kevin Young"
A while ago I reported reading on Jeff Anthony's site of one of
the provinces in Canada allowing first time tournament players to play
without joining the national organization to keep the cost down for
the first-timer.
I know everyone cites USRA insurance as the major roadblock, but
you could have them sign an injury waiver to waive liability.
Kind of like the one I have to sign anyway when I fill out an
application...."I hereby for myself and my executors, waive and
release any and all rights and claims I have against the USRA, (insert
club here), (insert state organization here) etc. , and their agents
for injuries in connection with said event."
Some tell me that is a foolish statement, that it wouldn't hold
up in court anyway. So it really doesn't matter if they would have to
pay anyway as a secondary insurance, the real question is would they
forgoe the loss of revenue in order to chance hooking a competitor?
If hooked, he (or she) would have to ante up for the next tournament
anyway.
If they laugh too loud at that, how about suggesting that each
state have ONE tournament a year that they would accept this practice?
If they are still laughing, ask them what plans they have to
increase tournament participation in the states where turnout is going
down.
I try all the time to get friends to try a tournament. The added
cost of USRA membership when they don't know if they will like it is
the major reason they give for not trying one. That's too bad. If
half got hooked.....
-Kevin-
Subject: Re: Show Me The Money
Date: 27 Sep 2000 21:07:50 GMT
From: (CHADJOYCE)
"sponge" mwkendal@flash.net wrote: ".... I love the game but am disappointed
by its lack of respect in the sporting world and its continued decline in the
health club market ...."
Chad writes: Dear Mr/Ms Sponge: I started playing racquetball after a
friend invited me to play a game at his club. That was more than 20 years ago.
After the first game, I knew immediately that I was hooked. One of many ways
to help create demand for our sport is for each of us to take personal
responsibility and introduce the game to friends, associates and relatives.
You can start today.
Chad Joyce
Subject: Re: Racquetball on TV
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:01:38 -0700
From: Rich Monroe
Ron wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are any racquetball tournaments that are ever
> televised?
It's been quite some time since I viewed racquetball on television, but
what I
can tell you is that coverage of any sport requires adequate camera angles
to
achieve optimum enjoyment for the viewing audience. Consider the
difference
between a basic regional NFL football game (12 cameras on the field) and a
typical NFL Monday Night Football Game (18-24 cameras). That's a huge
difference
for the audience and if you're a football fan you can relate to what I'm
saying.
Part of racquetballs challenge on television may not be so much the speed
at
which the ball travels but adequate coverage of the playing area and a
game at
which the serving pace (Rule 3.5 DELAYS) creates difficulty for a
television crew
to show instant replay or slo-motion during a live broadcast. Soooooo,
what
broadcasters and sponsors are left with is the option to shoot an event
("live on
tape" as best they can) and then take the material to Editing and package
it into
a program that will fit into a half hour slot somewhere in their packed
programming schedule, and, according to some of the posts I've been
reading here,
Racquetball has gotten some pretty lousy time slots, like Sunday mornings
from
3:30 am to 4:00 am. How unfortunate.
How can this be improved?
Pro-event promoters - If you're going to put on an event for television
make sure
it has a court with adequate viewing for television cameras. Two should be
placed
in the front wall (high shot and low angle), one camera in each side wall
covering the service box to cover both left and right handed players
(think of
golfs coverage of a typical tee shot for these two), Overhead camera
(excellent
for telestrator - color commentary on court awareness, position and
strategy),
two back corner side wall cameras (for covering corner back wall shots),
One back
wall camera covering the entire game and rally, a high back wall camera
(reverse
of the one high in the front wall) a camera on the referee, a camera on
the
gallery and finally a camera on the hosts of the broadcast. That's twelve
cameras
(4 manned and 8 remote) to adequately cover the sport of racquetball.
Anything
less and you'll begin to sacrifice the entertainment value for the
audience and
sell ability of the broadcast (or tape delay) to sponsors and advertisers.
Sponsors - It takes a lot of time and costs a lot of money to put on a
broadcast
such as I've outlined. Work with promoters and broadcasters to enhance or
remodel
facilities to hold such events. If an venue doesn't have adequate
capabilities
then don't go there expecting outstanding televised results. If you want
an
audience to buy your products you've got to give them something of value
to watch
beyond basic coverage.
USRA, Event Promoters, and Sponsors - Lobby the networks to cover your
events
ADEQUATELY, thus giving them something of value to sell to their
advertisers at
times people will be watching. Promote - Promote - Promote
Rich Monroe
producer, director, racquetball enthusiast
Subject: Re: AmPRO - A New Direction
Date: 21 Aug 2000 20:22:32 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
Yep, A few years back I called over 100 clubs in Illinois. About half the
people who answered the phone didn't even know how many courts they had at the
multi-facility places like Park Districts and YMCA's.
And when I did talk to a manager or director interested in racquetball it was
long conversations, and they did not even know who I was! (Yea, I can have a
long conversation with myself, but not when I have a huge list of clubs to
call).
I still say, the person who MAKES THE CALLS should be able to immediately
schedule a free clinic for that facility from a "open" list of available
"sponsored" players, first amongst the preferred by the facility, then by the
instructor who lives/works near the facility.
This can be achieved by getting all the sponsored players to make at least 4
days available each fall/winter for someone (Like Lynn) to schedule.
When you call a facility, you offer a free clinic or event hosted by the list
of names available.
NO, they don't have to be just clinics, they could be racquet demos, beat the
pros (local top guns), challenge mixers etc.
A website and auto email could be used to show facilities, instructors and
interested persons what is going on and where.
But the key is ORGANIZATION, PLANNING, and ADVANCED PROMOTION.
OK, what do you think?
Jordan
--
Subject: AmPRO - A New Direction
From: Racquetball Central
Date: 8/21/00 1:02 AM Central Daylight Time
(snip)
Lynn said it was going slow...on top of it, Lynn knows so many
clubs/owners/management across the country that each phone call isn't
just "wham-bam-thank you mame"...it often turns into a long call about
everything under the sun. Still she hinted she does maybe up to 10
clubs a day...among the many other things she does. Now with
approximately 2500+ fitness clubs across the US with rb courts...it
would take about 250 days by the time she's done...considering no
problems/illness/etc are encountered.
Subject: Re: Recreational Racquetball Association
Date: 02 Jul 2000 09:43:58 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.racquetball
References: 1
I have suggested in the past to the USRA that they begin an organization that
has a goal of ONLY dealing with non-tournament recreational players using the
existing USRA organization.
This new group could be comprised of company reps, club staff, current and past
"recreational" players and others who have the time, energy and experience to
help.
The goal is simple, provide direct help FREE OF CHARGE to any facility or state
association.
Ironically the USRA has a database of all the clubs and racquet companies, but
only uses this to promote to only a few players per club who are already USRA
members.
You would think it would be more beneficial to promote "programs" toward the
97% of the players at a club rather than a tournament to only 3%.
As far as clubs, out of the 3000 or so clubs, how many actually run tournaments
or have enough courts or players to do so?
The key is programming.
The USRA is quick to point the lack of programming in clubs, but what USRA
programs are offered to the non-tournament club player?
By programs, I am not talking about LESSONS, but carefully designed programs
that attract new players; keep new players busy with games against other new
players.
People want to play, not take lessons.
Not all facilities are the same or share the same demographics. Sample programs
should be referenced and available to all clubs FREE.
All a club has to do is ask for a local USRA representative to help program and
run the programs.
All representatives will donate their time until the programs show a profit.
How to do this?
1) Contact all racquetball clubs and club program staff to find out what
programs work or don't work for them.
2) Enter this into a database with club demographics.
3) Create a program BIG program book and updated web site FREE.
4) Create a volunteer base to help facilities with programs.
5) Divide club locations into "regional", "state" and "area" zones.
6) Have designated "zone" volunteers- LOTS, not just a few "selected" people.
7) Go after past players who have retired or are injured but still want to be
involved.
8) Co-Op newspaper ads with "zoned" facilities to promote area programs.
9) Form alliances with Park Districts, YMCAs, JCCs and other primary
facilities.
10) Don't fiddle around with finding "sponsors", just do it. Many clubs and
people will be happy to donate their time.
Jordan
PS. Forget AmPRO, you don't need to know anything about racquetball to get this
running. And after you get this running, more people will want to play than
take lessons.
--
Subject: July racquetball promotion idea (suggestion for USRA)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 19:44:22 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.racquetball
July promotion suggestion for USRA.
My "July" positive suggestion for racquetball and the USRA.
One way to increase the number of new racquetball players is to provide a FREE
learn and play promotion to non-players through a FREE CERTIFIC good at
participating clubs.
Yes, tennis has done this for years in the national magazine.
The catch? All participants of the "Learn and Play" promotion must be non-USRA
members.
Free certificates would also be readily available at participating clubs.
The goal is simple, create new players and memberships for clubs. All
participants will be added to the USRA mailing list for a later promotion from
racquet companies.
Full participant waivers would include the mail list waiver, along with waiver
for use of photographs for promotional use. USRA has stated they have no
promotional photos due to the "expense" and ownership issue.
The USRA would be providing the leadership and credibility with national
6-month sponsorship promotion and an additional 6-month post promotion that
could develop into an annual event.
The clubs would provide free court time and display and promote this effort, in
exchange clubs would receive FREE exposure in the USRA Racquetball Magazine and
state newsletters.
An advanced 6-month promotion would be needed, starting in one of the fall
months like September or October.
Any of the house pros or experienced players can be used for this, because the
goal is to get people playing, not providing instruction.
FREE use of equipment would be mandatory for participating facilities.
I will post a step-by-step organizational outline in a later post how this can
be done.
Please feel free to comment about this suggestion or add any new ideas BEFORE I
post the outline.
Jordan
PS.I do LOTS of free clinics, which account for about half of my paying program
participants. I ONLY run free clinics at the same time and day a week or two
before available programs begin. But the FREE clinics are promoted weeks in
advanced.
Subject: A Basic Premise
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:54:29 -0500
From: Racquetball Central
I think that it may have been DanO who first mentioned it
here...certainly the first place I heard it was from Chuck
Leve...but...for those who care...if you want racquetball, as a sport,
to get to a higher level...it must be promoted as a ... FITNESS SPORT.
That's the basic premise.
Did an little experiment tonight...league night. I'm 44 next week...and
played the club pro/owner, who is 30. I think all he does is
workout...ok, and run the club ;-) My wife gives me grief every time
she sees him lifting...my only response is, "But I've got
skills"...unfortunately, my skills were only good up to 10-12
tonight...guess I'll have to start lifting/training again....shoulder
feels good though.
Anyway...did an experiment. recently bought a Polar HR Monitor...one of
the "nice ones"...has memory and records HR in 5 sec intervals for up to
5+ hrs. Maybe I'm a bit outta shape...but playing Howie, I practically
maintained a HR of over 170 (mostly over 180)...for 45 mins. And...of
course, I had a great time doing it ;-)
The next step is getting data on women, juniors, trained vs
untrained...moving into anaerobic thresholds, lactate levels, fatigue
parameters, etc.
FITNESS...if you want to see racquetball SKYROCKET...you've got to solve
the equation:
Racquetball = Fitness
--
Racquetball Central
http://www.racquetballcentral.com/
Subject: "My" racquetball views for 2000
Date: 23 Jan 2000 02:11:36 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
"My Changing Views" about Racquetball for the New Year.
There seems to be a "vicious circle" of blame for the responsibility of
racquetball promotion.
Players blame their clubs, state and national organizations.
Clubs say the cost of hiring a racquetball programmer (not to be confused with
instructor) is the problem.
State organizations say it is the "clubs" responsibility to promote
racquetball.
National organization says it is up to the local state organizations, clubs and
players to promote racquetball.
Though the national organization does "certify" (AmPRO) instructors and
programmers, these are primary existing instructors who have already promoted
racquetball in a club, or who teach for "club membership" or extra income.
Unfortunately promoting is not as easy to do as teaching racquetball and most
"part-time" instructors barely have the time to teach racquetball lessons.
I believe the common thread, or complaint is the lack of "promotion". I am not
talking about instructors, AmPRO or even televised racquetball, but the
day-to-day "club" promotion to existing and future players and members.
Before you pass the blame, look at what each group does do.
Clubs provide the courts.
National and State associations run tournaments.
Instructors teach.
All three groups above do different things that compliment each other, with the
exception that without the clubs you would have no need for instructors and
National or State associations.
So my "New Changing View" for this year is what can I do to help the clubs?
I challenge all the NG readers to meet with their local facility manager/owner
and ask how YOU can help them for FREE. Yes, for free. That's the magic word
in business, free.
I will post ways YOU can help your local facility EVERY WEEK.
These are cheap, easy and simple things that slowly promote racquetball.
The first step is to change your attitude and work WITH the clubs, not to
complain.
Thanks for taking the time to read this,
Jordan
Subject: Re: Interview letter
Date: 19 Oct 1999 01:32:53 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
KATHY!
Gee, I DIDN"T READ THE WHOLE THING!
Imagine what a club manager will do with this!
Looks too much like a "form" letter.
Keep this and USE this idea (your info only) for AFTER meeting club director!
GO TO THE CLUB!
DO NOT WRITE!
If YOU are really INTERESTED, stop by the club, pick up club info, and ASK who
is in charge of racquetball and WHO is the manager.
Ask to SPEAK to these people IN PERSON! (will save everyone time).
Pick a TIME OF DAY that is slow to keep their attention.
DO NOT, DO NOT- I repeat, DON"T send any letters FIRST! (BUT…)
You could always save the time and energy, add intrigue and credibility by
sending a professionally printed "post card" explaining that a "*Racquetball
Programmer" will be contacting the manager soon.
*This is WHY I wanted to know the details from the USRA for rights of logos
(AmPRO & USRA) when doing brochures!
Kathy, don't forget to have REFERENCES, like other club managers to vouch for
you!
Good luck (think positive)
Jordan
PS. Most guys will hire you based on your looks alone ;)
Kathy wrote (snip)>
>With respect to my previous question about programming: Here is a
>letter I was thinking of sending out to the 13 or so clubs in the area
>to try and get an interview.
Subject: Re: Grow the sport!?!
Date: 18 Oct 1999 01:41:44 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
No, that's NOT what needs to be done to promote and grow racquetball!
Reasons:
1) Racquetball Can't Afford It.
2) Racquetball Can't Afford To Purchase or Get Sponsors for "Expensive" TV
Time.
3) Racquetball Can't Grow Enough To Justify Its "Olympic" Status for A Few
"TV" Hours Every 4 Years.
If you owned a small business, you could always advertise on TV. But it will
"break" you because the cost is higher than the return!
That's why most TV advertisement is for regional and national businesses.
Racquetball is "small potatoes" compared to other televised sports.
What will grow the sport is an organized plan that has national sponsorship at
lower expenses than TV fees.
Look at kids soccer programs!
Most are non-competitive practice games to get kids playing and have fun. There
is a national office that is associated with local communities.
There are millions of kids playing soccer, all without TV time, portable courts
or Olympic status.
It just takes knowledge of HOW to start from scratch with NON-tournament
events!
Racquetball will NEVER grow by promoting the TOURNAMENTS or PRO players!
(Most PRO Racquetball players understand this)
Racquetball will only grow by involving NEW players in local facilities!
Racquetball and soccer share one common trait, people rather play than watch on
TV. Soccer is too slow and racquetball is too fast- but both are fun to
participate in at non-competitive levels for new players!
Jordan
Dave wrote>
Good point. Even though it cost $25,000 to transport the court, isnt's that
what we have to do to try and grow the sport? It seems to me that we
should use the glass court that is used in Memphis for other purposes other
than letting it sit in Memphis all year until the U.S. Open comes again.
Subject: Re: Grow the sport!?!
Date: 16 Oct 1999 20:23:31 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
Dave, nice idea, except few people know that the cost for "transporting" the
portable court is $25,000.
So much for that idea.
It is NOT how to get people to play as much as it is HOW to retain people that
try.
Example, I can have 50 kids in a clinic, but not many will suddenly join the
facility or start paying a $10 court fee.
The funny thing is all the owners and managers say these "kids" can afford the
court fees! Hey, when I was a kid, my parents could also afford the fees, but
they told me it was too expensive!
Kids parents will tell their kids to play other FREE activities such as
basketball, or open gym time.
Before you promote ANYTHING, have working plans (flexible) that can be
implemented to PROGRAM what you are promoting!
CATCH- Most clubs ARE NOT racquetball clubs and will force high fees to
non-members, or have very high membership fees to someone that is not sure if
they will even continue playing!
BTW: Forget the teenagers and college kids (for now).
Concentrate on the 4 - 10 year old kids, for they have the least activities to
select from to play and their parents will be more inclined to pay for
programs.
Best Part- this younger kid's stay with a program longer, thus creating the
teenager and college player market!
Very few college players (who play free at school) can afford a club after
leaving school.
I don't understand why people think PRO PLAYERS are needed to promote the
sport? Heck, I teach the opposite way. I could show off, but the kids won't
relate to watching me, they rather play.
Anyway, to a Novice, a C player is a PRO!
Jordan
PS. The way to promote racquetball, the way some clubs did in the 70's, is to
have weekly social beginner nights with all equipment provided and someone to
show and introduce players to other players. Free instruction available to
those beginners that need it. Charge $7 per person and provide snacks.
Program this during "Dead Times" and KEEP IT GOING all year! There will
eventually be an increase of members by "WORD OF MOUTH". - This works at any
club, regardless of size, age or level.
Dave wrote>
In between RB games this evening, the person I was playing mentioned
an idea that she had. Shari Coplen, said that what was needed to get
more people involved with RB, the powers that be needed to have the
top ten RB players go around major cities in the U.S. with the
portable court, and set this up in malls. Most major malls have at
least one place in them that we could setup the glass court, have
seats and show what the sport is all about.
Malls have a lot of kids hanging around in them, along with parents
and older adults. This could be done on a 5-6 week schedule. If
this is too often then do it on a 8 week schedule. Think of all
the people that would see this sport demonstrated. I can think of
three malls here in St. Louis that could pull this off.
Have the top players from each region attend. Do this from Thursday
through Sunday or Saturday. You could have a mini-tournament in
quite a few major cities.
You could have demonstrations, lessons, play with the pro, show off
all of the different type racquets.
The next question is how do you pay for this? You could get all
of the major RB companies that sell equipment put into a fund to
pull this off.
Seeing Ed's resonse about going after all the major colleges around
the country, was a very good idea. Ed, I am trying to get something
going with the folks out at KCU out in Kansas City.
Racquetball is picking up here in the St. Louis area.
I was at a tournament out in Georgetown, Kansas a couple of weeks
ago. I was listening in on a conversation between 3-4 older men in
their 45-55 age group. They were saying that they did not have any
program like the one that Jim Murphy runs in the St. Louis area
for high school kids. There weren't any young kids taking up the
sport in the KC area. Something needed to be done to get some
new/fresh blood into the sport. They are running out of
good/different players to play RB with.
Dave St. Louis
Subject: Re: to sanction or not to sanction
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 00:03:18 -0700
From: mdavern
I see two very good discussion points in this thread. The first is by Jeff Anthony.
He says:
> ...The other thing is the magazine/merchandising aspect. Is it unreasonable
> to ask $20 ($15?) for a yearly magazine subscription? What if it came with
> a few other goodies and a USRA membership#?
This goes along with my thinking. How do we increase racquetball membership? By
making the membership value increase for non-tournament players. I would like to
see ideas how we might do that. What types of things could Linda cover in the
magazine different than what she is covering now, that would make a difference (if
any)? What could state organizations do that would mean anything to club players?
The other poster than hit it on the head was Bruce. He writes:
"... most of the people at our club who want to play in tournaments ante up
the $20 USRA membership. Most of the rest aren't going to play, even if it
is free (I know, because we once ended up trying to give entries away to one
of our non-sanctioned events to make a decent draw)...."
I think we have two different membership groups. Can we serve them both? Should we
even try. Perhaps we should work with our current tournament player membership, try
to do a better job there and just work to grow our junior programs as Ed suggests.
Thoughts?
As to Kathy's excellent attempt to work through a 1/2 sanctioned tournament, I
think that Bruce has it nailed. It doesn't come down to the cost. It is weather
they can give up a weekend with the kids playing soccer, football, basketball, the
honey-do list, work, etc.
Jordan's idea is also a non-starter. Why bother? What good is a $3.00 membership to
us anyway? Taking it down to its lowest level, the Illinois State Racquetball
Association needs more members so that we can run better tournaments, promote our
activities better, have better junior programs. All of this takes money!!!! We need
the $7.00 per head. Simple. I am not looking to increase head count just to say we
have more "heads" as a member. (Unless they are playing for HEAD :)
We should try to improve recreational membership to grow the sport. If we grow the
sport we can get more tournament players. The more tournament players the more fun
we have at tournaments.
Mike Davern
Subject: Re: to sanction or not to sanction
Date: 16 Oct 1999 06:24:57 GMT
From: (Peter Mcmillin)
wow kathy. i just went thru all the shit you list...
i offered discount memberships to usra. i paid half. i got 6 extra people to
sign up....out of a dismal 48 total.
i lost my ass....well, at least a part of it. and those of you who know me
(read that steve edwards) no comments on the fact that i may be able to lose
some of it and most not notice. i made mistakes. i wanted a big draw. i paid
big bucks for open. i even offered equal pay for women if i had a full
draw....(only 8) i had a poor draw, only 9 in mens and 5 in womens.
*I* see the light too about usra. there has to be a galactic headquarters
someplace to do this stuff. i know it is a ton of work and not much credit
goes to the people trying to do their best.....(yes linda, that is the sound of
me kissing your ass).
>Another Problem: Racquetball has a marketing problem. Sponsors are
>underwhelmed, dropping like flies because the Market (not the tournament
> player, but "people that care about racqetball stuff") is small. The
>market is also divided. One part needs more commercial revenue.
i asked pk to help me with the tourney. they wanted to see the damn entry
form...it did not have pk on it. duh????? they were not a sponsor. if i had
put them on it, they would have considered helping me out. bfd. i asked them
to give me prizes for juniors. i asked them to give me banners. i asked them
to give me t shirts. i asked them to give me a racquet or two.
"sorry, hq marketing said no as we are not on the entry form."
perhaps my fault because i did not get it to pk two months before the
tourney...hey. i have a life too, and this took up a ton of time. and i was not
able to do as good a job as i should have.
i sent out 1300 flyers. the first tourney of the season. to oregon, wash and
idaho.....i got 48. and even worse, only 8 from this area....and i was one of
them...
good luck in your endeavors...i tried really hard....
but, you know the sad part about it? i am going to have another, first weekend
of april....and this time, i may even get it to be an irt satellite.....
well, as they say...no brain, no pain...
peter
Subject: Re: How to increase racquetball& USRA memberships
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:17:52 -0700
From: mdavern
Of all our NG topics, I have to say this is my favorite one. This is the
topic that keeps bringing me back here. The answer to the lack of growth
in racquetball is so obvious that even the "hated" Dropshot has
it EXACTLY correct. (I can't believe that I am saying this!!!).
I also have to once again thank Mr. Ross for bringing up the subject.
(And by the way Kathy..I have always
agreed with 100% of everything you have ever said...especially when you
agree with me :)
First of all Mr. Ross: Even if you think that a rule change will help
the sport grow, I have to say
that you need someone at the club to teach the new rules. It's
programming again!!!
Drop finally has it right, as he said:
"YMCA's and JCCA's are were racquetball began, because they know how to
program. When racquetball left these institutions for the more ambiguous
AARA, guess
what. Racquetball participation starts to drop. Why? no programming,
just
"National Events".
I am not going to blame the AARA. Racquetball left the Y's to go to
racquetball-only clubs. The existence of the AARA has nothing to do with
programming or the lack thereof.
Court owners put up courts left and right and, as a result, supply went
through the roof. Still, demand at that time was stronger. People would
come to play, even when they had to pay for court time. For a very short
while, it must have been a license to print money.
There was no need to program for racquetball and the clubs could charge
for court time. You had to play to join the club and pay monthly as
well. If I remember correctly, their were no aerobics. Their were no
weight machines (free weights only). Unfortunately, that business model
fell apart very quickly. Too many clubs were built and other activities
were added that could draw the interest of potential racquetball
players. As I recall, even Drop has said it takes two individuals of
about the same level to really have a good
time playing a full hour of court time. Drop, if you want to point to an
organization that killed racquetball, it might be the local Bally's.
Bally's, which would do no programming, killed racquetball with a
different business model and eliminated the profitability of any nearby
racquetball club. Fancy neon lights, dancing
girls, exercise machines, sexy commercials. High traffic. Sign 'em up
and let them disappear. Keep paying on that contract, though. If you can
only afford to join one or the other club, you join the Bally's. Hey
they even got a racquetball court or two. We can play there (you think).
Membership spread out, players disappeared. No programming. No
racquetball. End of story.
Except for the 1.5 million of us committed core players (if that is the
right number...I forget the most recent numbers I saw.) Now supply of
courts has to shrink to meet that core demand. We also might have a
chance to grow the sport a bit by teaching remaining clubs that it takes
work, and lots of it, to run a successful club. It is a shame that the
customers have to teach the owners what it takes to run a club, but that
appears to be the case. If the owner doesn't play racquetball, all they
see is empty space and the need to put up a climbing wall so that they
could charge that court time by the hour. It the meantime, leagues are
not organized, there are no challenge court nights, there is no
racquetball co-ordinator position, their are no clinics, etc.
I like Kathy's idea of using the NG to point out clubs around the
country that are doing it right. The AmPRO programming manual has a
step-by-step system showing how to program. I think it would be a great
idea to point out these clubs anyway. Maybe the state organizations can
put together a program to recognize individual clubs doing it right in
their newsletter or with annual recognition awards. This would be a
great idea for Illinois.
Drop had another comment I totally agree with:
"That is why I keep telling people to forget about the USRA and
concentrate on there own local racquetball associations."
That is what I have been saying. The USRA is there to run the sport at
the top level. Their job to to publish the rules, promote tournaments,
work the Olympics. Help some in the effort of teaching programming
through AmPRO manual. (There job is not go into clubs to tell them what
to do.) When you think of it, not that different from the job of the
NBA. The NBA has nothing to do with my local basketball league or pick
up games. The sport is so big, no one even thinks of the NBA in those
terms. Our state organizations need to pick up the ball. Push
programming at the state level and point out to clubs the benefits of
programming for racquetball. We need to run programs to make our $20 fee
worthwhile to club/rec players.
This is too much agreement for me in one post...I have to go lay down
and recover. Kathy with good and simple ideas, Drop making sense. What
is this world coming to?
Mike Davern
Dropshot25 wrote:
> .Dear Kathy you are completely correct.
> But Mr. Ross has something going that needs to be examined. I think that it
> would make the game much more competitive for more styles of play. More
> inclusive is the word that comes to mind.
> Now back to programming. If you can program you can start your own racquetball
> program. YMCA's and JCCA's are were racquetball began, because they how to
> program. When racquetball left these institutions for the more ambiguous AARA
> guess what. Racquetball participation starts to drop. Why? no programming, just
> "National Events".
> The little guy has to come to realize that the USRA does no programming on the
> local level and they do not reward anybody who does, unless they give the USRA
> all the credit. That is why I keep telling people to forget about the USRA and
> concentrate on there own local racquetball associations. If you do, you will
> know what it takes to maintain your own associations and maybe collect your own
> dues. Don't , I repeat, don't depend on the USRA for programming, do it
> yourself the results and rewards will be much better.
> Dropshot25
Subject: How to increase racquetball& USRA memberships Date:
03 Oct 1999 01:16:12 GMT From: (JordanISRA) Organization:
AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sport.racquetball Linda wrote in
her "Sept. - Oct. 1999 Racquetball Magazine FROM THE EDITOR: Where are
They?" >You know, players who don't even know that there is any organized
structure for the sport they enjoy? Don't know their "Gee-neology?" [Gee,
there's a national office? Gee, and a state association? I can buy an
official rulebook? A magazine? Attend major tournaments? Gee!] If we accept
the most-conservative data, which sets the number of regular racquetball
enthusiasts at roughly nine million, we're left with about 8,975,000 long-lost
relatives wandering around looking for the picnic. How do we invite them?
The Jordan reply (The answer is in the first sentence- "players who don't
even know that there is any organized structure for the sport they enjoy")
The question should really be; If players already "enjoy" the non-tournament
USRA events they are active in, why should they pay a $20 USRA membership?
Maybe the USRA should offer non-tournament events "at a affordable price"
that 8 million players will be interested in. Here is a quick, simple
and inexpensive "Jordan Suggestion" to tap into the existing 8 million
racquetball players. Charge a $3 one year "RECREATIONAL" USRA membership
that will create thousands of new members by offering non-tournament recreational
programs, such as "Challenge Courts", "Mixers" and "Clinics" . The USRA
official "Athlete Insurance premium" is $1.92 per person. The USRA membership
card is $1 per person. This equals a total of $2.92, which certainly can
be covered by a $3 fee. The new membership cards can be coded or printed
so there is no confusion between full and recreational memberships. This
$3 membership would not include the Racquetball Magazine, Competitive
License for tournaments or State Newsletters. What this fee will include
is the opportunity to participate in State and National Sanctioned "Recreational
Events". Example… USRA Challenge Mixer Saturdays 9am - 11am at "the Racquet
Club" Racquet Club members Free, USRA Members $5, Non-members $8 ($8 fee
includes USRA "Recreational" USRA 1 year membership that allows for "membership"
in USRA Recreational programs) The example above shows exactly how easy
it is to increase full USRA memberships from creating "Recreational" memberships
that are easily upgraded to full USRA $20 memberships once a players interests
is "sparked". Question 1) the host club (the Racquet Club) just dished
out $3 per non-member that they could have kept. How does a club benefit
by giving away $3 to the USRA? Answer 1) the host club benefits by having
the local State Association help promote the CLUB through the state newsletters
and members "word of mouth". Since most players get involved from a friend
who already plays or is a USRA member. Plus the state can send instructors
and staff to help run these events, saving the club expensive pro fees.
The club also creates a quick "cash flow" while keeping their club members
happy with new players to meet and play. The club will benefit most by
offering programs to "new" players who purchase "club memberships". The
state association can add these new "USRA Recreational members" and provide
local clubs with mailing names when hosting USRA Recreational events.
Of course the postage would be paid by the host club at no additional
cost to the local state association. Question 2) What does the state association
get? Answer 2) The local state association gets new names for mailings
they can offer to host clubs. New state memberships from upgraded "full"
USRA memberships after "Recessional" members have met existing members
and want to start playing tournaments or receive other full USRA membership
benefits. The example of a "Challenge Mixer" can be used as a weekly event
or special one time event for many different types of racquetball programs.
But the idea is the same. If the 8 million recreational players are not
interested in tournaments, the USRA should offer the 8 million players
what they already are interested in- recreational programs. Jordan
Subject: Re: How to increase racquetball& USRA memberships
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 16:51:29 -0600
From: Linda Mojer
A "recreational membership" was offered several years ago and *included* a magazine
subscription for a $3.00 fee. State associations/volunteers (who were charged with
collecting fees/accounting, rosters and other paperwork *on top of* their other
volunteer duties) were quickly overwhelmed and it was soon found that the
administrative responsibilites/costs could not be justified, so the program was
phased out. Without local support, such a program cannot be handled directly by the
national office.
The current direction of AmPRO is expected to fill the "club void" more and more in
the coming months, as the USRA proceeds with an ambitious plan to place an AmPRO
certified professional in every racquetball facility nationwide. It would then
become those AmPRO professionals who would serve as official "conduits" of USRA
program information and provide the type of "alternative" racquetball opportunities
you have described. AmPRO holds great promise for reaching the recreational playing
population, and you'll read more about the USRA's plans in this area, in the
magazine, as they develop.
--
Linda L. Mojer
USRA Associate Executive Director/Communications
Managing Editor, RACQUETBALL Magazine
http://www.usra.org & http://www.racqmag.com
Subject: Re: How to increase racquetball& USRA memberships
Date: 04 Oct 1999 01:47:13 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
Linda, I officially propose that it is time for the USRA to start a new
"Recreational Branch" of the USRA with the single mission to promote
Recreational Racquetball through facilities.
This should not be confused with AmPRO, which after several years has not shown
much success promoting new players (since the instructors already did that
without AmPRO certification).
The USRA is too busy running tournaments and trying to get racquetball into the
"Olympics" and AmPRO has its own problems just trying to get instructors
certified.
Linda, your post to my suggestion on "Recreational Memberships" sounded like an
excuse, or poor decision making of "phasing out" the "Recreational membership"
program.
Why didn't USRA management look for help with the "paperwork" from outside TEMP
business sources?
If you are in the business to promote, being "overwhelmed" is a GOOD!
Sure it would cost extra, but wouldn't it be worth it?
Strange that the USRA promotes the "Portable Glass Court", "Olympic (dream)
Racquetball" and the US Open in hopes to create new members in the future- but
discontinued a "known" proven successful plan that DID increase new
memberships!
Maybe the USRA could contract an outside business to handle memberships during
this promotion.
The membership card is just paper, worth pennies, first class mailing is under
$.35, so estimate $.50 per card left over to pay a person to enter data. USRA
figures list membership card costing $1 each.
At 30 cards an hour (data entry), that's $15 per hour to pay someone to do the
work during peak times.
The USRA can always hire "TEMP" workers to do the work when needed.
Jordan
PS. Recently the USRA had a plan to double its (25,000) membership by existing
members getting one new friend to join. Even incentives as expensive as a whole
can of balls were offered. WHAT was the USRA going to do when all these NEW
membership applications started rolling in? The existing staff could now handle
this promotion, but not the "Recreational Membership" promotion?
Linda wrote>
A "recreational membership" was offered several years ago and *included* a
magazine
subscription for a $3.00 fee. State associations/volunteers (who were charged
with
collecting fees/accounting, rosters and other paperwork *on top of* their other
volunteer duties) were quickly overwhelmed and it was soon found that the
administrative responsibilites/costs could not be justified, so the program was
phased out. Without local support, such a program cannot be handled directly by
the
national office.
Subject: Re: How to increase racquetball& USRA memberships
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 22:09:44 -0700
From: mdavern
Once again, I would like to go the opposite direction than my fellow respectful
ASR'ers.
Repeating my comment from a post several weeks ago, I feel that the USRA membership
fee of $20 per year is worth it, just for the Racquetball Magazine and our state
newsletter alone. In my opinion, the competitive player is receiving far, far above
his/her $20 annual fee. We have dozens of people putting in hundreds of hours in
Illinois to try to make the competitive player enjoy their racquetball tournament
and travel league experience. I will continue invite anyone who feels differently
to join us at the next board meeting, which is a week from this Wednesday. Just
send me an email. All great ideas welcomed within our limited budget of $7.00 per
player.
As far as growth of our sport in Illinois, we have decided to tackle this bull by
the horns. We do not have enough time at our once a month board meetings to do
anything other than just barely stay ahead of next month's events. So we are
forming a separate group of interested local players to meet outside of the ISRA
board to discuss membership issues.
As I see it, the problem is (1) not enough recreational players know that the ISRA
exists and (2) we have to investigate if the ISRA is providing enough services to
the recreational player. I am going to meet tomorrow (Monday) with several local
players and board members of the ISRA to discuss ways to get the word out and
discuss what additional programs we can offer in Illinois to improve the value of
the ISRA membership.
One idea is to host an ISRA membership night at local clubs. We would bring in
sponsored players with copies of the USRA magazine, the ISRA newsletters and
USRA/ISRA membership forms. We will have "play the pro" type challenge court
activities. It is my hope that we can get a number of club players at each of these
stops to sign up. I will give you details of this idea and others that we may
develop at tomorrow's meeting.
Mike Davern
Team HEAD
AmPRO Instructor
Illinois Webmaster
self wrote:
> Linda Mojer wrote in article
> > A "recreational membership" was offered several years ago and *included* a
> magazine
> > subscription for a $3.00 fee. State associations/volunteers (who were charged
> with
> > collecting fees/accounting, rosters and other paperwork *on top of* their
> other
> > volunteer duties) were quickly overwhelmed and it was soon found that the
> > administrative responsibilites/costs could not be justified, so the program
> was
> > phased out.
>
> Son of a gun, I never knew that. Interesting. I suppose it must have gained in
> popularity SO MUCH that it was canceled before I had a chance to hear about it
> down here in FL. Too popular. What a concept. Maybe rather than offloading
> those admin costs to the locals, USRA could just provide mag to people at a
> reasonable cost *directly*, and we could then read about USRA's Olympic efforts
> in it. Perhaps the regular players could then look to RacquetBall Player
> Monthly (tm) to find out all other non-Olympic RB info of interest to them?
> Wandering even further afield, I wonder if all those local orgs might be
> interested in just quitting the USRA altogether, and serving their local
> constituencies, if they decide the Olympic-game game isn't their cup of tea? No
> one know the locals like the locals, you know. Shoot, they already have the
> facilities for the newsletters, the experience, the local club connections....
> heck, maybe time would pass, and they would someday decide to band together, to
> share things of universal interest of PLAYERS. They might come up with a
> National Ranking System....they might decide that an AMATEUR is defined as: "A
> player who has not accepted prize money." (Pretty simple concept, one that is
> far too unsophisticated for the Olympic-driven USRA, naturally. But we yokels
> in the sticks DO have odd ideas....) Oops, sorry, I seem to have wandered off
> in a reverie. Must be time for bed.
>
> Greg "Visions of Empowerment Dance in their Heads" Stoner
>
> P.S. I wonder how the EQUIPMENT MAKERS feel about the unquenchable quest for
> Olympic glory at the cost of the game in middle-America? Maybe *they* would
> rather serve a large, upwardly mobile group of several million, instead of a
> cloistered few "Let them eat cake" types...
> GS
Subject: Re: How to increase racquetball& USRA memberships
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:37:35 -0600
From: Linda Mojer
FYI: please remember that the ASR newsgroup is *not* recognized as the avenue via
which to "officially propose" anything to the USRA -- send it direct if you are
serious about making these suggestions. There cannot be any guarantee that posts to
the newsgroup are even seen - much less taken as legitimate input - in the national
office. I respond here out of courtesy.
JordanISRA wrote:
> Linda, I officially propose that it is time for the USRA to start a new
> "Recreational Branch" of the USRA with the single mission to promote
> Recreational Racquetball through facilities.
>
> This should not be confused with AmPRO, which after several years has not shown
> much success promoting new players (since the instructors already did that
> without AmPRO certification).
That is *exactly* the direction that AmPRO is headed -- as I stated -- and the
momentum that has begun (built on small successes over time) is what will make this
program valuable. Utilizing these existing resources seems far better than
re-inventing the wheel by starting *another* new "recreational branch."
> The USRA is too busy running tournaments and trying to get racquetball into the
> "Olympics" and AmPRO has its own problems just trying to get instructors
> certified.
>
> Linda, your post to my suggestion on "Recreational Memberships" sounded like an
> excuse, or poor decision making of "phasing out" the "Recreational membership"
> program.
>
> Why didn't USRA management look for help with the "paperwork" from outside TEMP
> business sources?
> If you are in the business to promote, being "overwhelmed" is a GOOD!
>
> Sure it would cost extra, but wouldn't it be worth it?
> Strange that the USRA promotes the "Portable Glass Court", "Olympic (dream)
> Racquetball" and the US Open in hopes to create new members in the future- but
> discontinued a "known" proven successful plan that DID increase new
> memberships!
This program was in place for several years, and it was phased out because it
*wasn't* worth it -- it did not have the support of the clubs themselves or the
recreational players who were not organized in any way (without someone in house to
manage programs, i.e. an AmPRO certified pro). Those who were signed-up by their
club did not renew, or upgrade their memberships to "full service" -- so it did not
increase new membership. The program simply was not successful, so it was
discontinued.
> Maybe the USRA could contract an outside business to handle memberships during
> this promotion.
Perhaps with the income from a doubled membership base, we could afford to do just
that ...
> The membership card is just paper, worth pennies, first class mailing is under
> $.35, so estimate $.50 per card left over to pay a person to enter data. USRA
> figures list membership card costing $1 each.
You are well aware that these figures are several years old.
> At 30 cards an hour (data entry), that's $15 per hour to pay someone to do the
> work during peak times.
>
> The USRA can always hire "TEMP" workers to do the work when needed.
>
> Jordan
> PS. Recently the USRA had a plan to double its (25,000) membership by existing
> members getting one new friend to join. Even incentives as expensive as a whole
> can of balls were offered. WHAT was the USRA going to do when all these NEW
> membership applications started rolling in? The existing staff could now handle
> this promotion, but not the "Recreational Membership" promotion?
Data processing is not the problem. Follow-up, renewal and management of local
programs (ideal projects for AmPRO certified pros nationwide) present a much more
involved responsibility which cannot be served by temporary clerical help. I
appreciate the fact that you may want to re-visit previous projects by adding your
own spin to them, but we do have the advantage of insights and collective
experience over time to know what works and what doesn't. And we *do* spend a great
deal of time in the discussion and development of projects which are meant to
address just these issues.
--
Linda L. Mojer
USRA Associate Executive Director/Communications
Managing Editor, RACQUETBALL Magazine
http://www.usra.org & http://www.racqmag.com
Subject: Re: What do YOU do?
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:18:37 -0500
From: Ed Arias
Hi Peter...let me first say that I think I misspoke a bit in my post. I
didn't mean to imply that the AmPRO Instructors Clinic was not worth
it...I think it sounded like it wasn't when I said, "I wasn't impressed
with my AmPRO Certified Instructor" ranking or something.
When I got back in the sport in '97 and started the UW-Madison Rb club,
my main focus was how to LEAD a large group of young enthusiastic
players. Therefore, the AmPRO Instructors Clinic didn't really apply as
it teaches one to teach on an individual or small group level and
focuses on how an Instructor can work in a court club and run
racquetball programs. That's fine but my club already has a dedicated
rb director so there's no place for me there...but I had to take the
Instructor's Clinic before I could take the Coaching Clinic...so I did
and passed it and waited...and waited...and waited...for 2 years I
waited. Coaching Clinics would be scheduled and then canceled due to
low participation or not enough Level I Coaches, etc.
Finally, the Coaching Clinic happened and FOR ME...it was the best next
thing to mom's chicken soup.
SO...if anyone out there wants to get a rb program going on in a court
club (that's deficient in this area)...the AmPRO Instructor's Clinic is
more suited toward that end. But if you're interested in starting a Rb
Club at a university or also a junior program at a club (or even at a
high school...god forbid :)...the AmPRO Coaching Clinic is for you.
However, you must pass the Instructor's Certification (somewhat
difficult) AND the Level I Coaching Clinic (easy, take home stuff)
first. At first I felt that you should be able to just take the
Coaching Clinic without the Instructor's but after thinking about
it...you do need to have a solid base of Instructor's skills for the
Coaching information.
Both clinics have there purpose...both are very good grassroots programs
which target areas which need a rb leader...the court clubs and the
universities/colleges. You may also notice that many successful rb
clubs have the AmPRO Programming Manual lying around somewhere...another
AmPRO program...more directed toward a club rb director. AmPRO is the
USRAs answer to grassroots programs to begin making a positive change in
the rb numbers and regain its popularity and accessibility in your area.
Also...IMHO, AmPRO can't do it alone. For a long time, I have strongly
felt that to increase "racquetball awareness" to the level it once was
(and beyond), it takes a diversified "attack". AmPRO is the base and
for me the "most rewarding" but we have to also support the "glitz and
glamour" of the sport...the tournaments (esp. the US Open), the Olympic
effort, our state associations and the USRA. If you can support one and
not the others...that's great. But just sitting at home on your duff
won't help. There are a lot of rb fans out there like myself who WANT
to get involved...so GET INVOLVED.
Pgmcmillin wrote:
>
> ed. get some sleep..then tell us about it. and cannot agree with you more
> about how it is worthwhile. talked and played with dave azuma for a while.
> and he says hi to you too former lt colonel. he also says you do have to much
> time on your hands.
>
> dave is a great player. kicked my butt. except when we played doubs. then we
> got one game outta 3. but he played backhand....
I met and played Dave at Nationals and I can tell you that I had a much
harder time against Dave in the 40's than I did in the Open division.
Dave is a very smart player as well as very quick and good execution.
And he is also a great person as he is one of the leaders of the
Oregonian junior rb wave...someone we could all learn a lot from.
Tell him that I WISH I had "too much time on my hands" and next time we
play I'll do better ;-)
> i cannot wait till i take ampro again. and i will do much better.
>
> peter
Good luck buddy but use your AmPRO skills (which many of us ALREADY
have) now.
BTW: Got an e-mail from Coach Winterton yesterday...he's already
planning the next AmPRO Level II Coaching Clinic as well as beginning to
plan for a Level III Coaching Clinic. I'll keep you all posted toward
these future dates as best I can.
Ed "you gotta have goals" Arias
--
Ed Arias
RaquetballCentral.Com
Subject: $3 Recreational USRA Membership Proposal
Date: 06 Oct 1999 18:17:00 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
One of the Illinois State Board Members read this idea and requested a complete
detailed one page summary- here it is.
$3 Recreational USRA Membership Proposal
Jordan Kahn
October 6, 1999
GOAL: To offer new and existing non-tournament recreational players
convenient inexpensive exciting programs that will increase club membership and
participation while increasing future state association members.
PLAN: Allowing a $3 (annual) fee for ISRA/USRA non tournament events, such
Youth & Adult Clinics, Challenge Courts, Social Mixers, Beat the Pros would
allow a "door" to open up to smaller racquetball facilities that have few
courts or have not offered ISRA/USRA tournaments because of the cost or lack of
players at their facility.
BENEFITS:
Facility Benefits:
1) FREE ADVERTISING: by the State Association via newsletter to ISRA members
and friends (guests).
2) NEW CLUB MEMBERSHIPS: program memberships or additional names for club
mailing list.
3) FREE HELP: Experienced staff to organize, promote and run each event with or
without help from the facility.
4) USES LESS COURT TIME: These non-tournament activities use very little court
time.
5) NO ADVERSE EFFECT ON DAILY CLUB OPERATION: Staff and club members are not
inconvenienced, unlike a tournament, which can effect the parking, towel use
and overall "crowding" of the club by many non members for days at a time.
Sate Association Benefits:
1) RETAINS EXISTING MEMBERSHIPS: More available programming to existing
members.
2) RETAINS LOST PAST MEMBERSHIPS: Retains past and current membership that may
be "out-of-shape" or have less time to practice for tournaments.
3) CONVIENCE TO PLAYERS: Caters to the individual that wants to play
tournaments but doesn't have the time to dedicate a whole weekend or day.
4) MORE VARIETY OF EVENTS AVAILABLE: Instead of just tournaments, the state can
now offer many types of programs, times, and fees to a larger market of
non-tournament players.
5) LESS STRESS FOR EVENT DIRECTORS: These new recreational events can be a
one-day event that takes only 1 or two hours. No difficult work planning
advanced tournaments to large number of players, staff, sponsors, draw sheets,
score cards or long work hours during a weekend tournament.
6) MORE WORD OF MOUTH BY PLAYERS: Many recreational players feel they are not
ready for a tournament but will participate in non-tournament events. Word gets
passed around of such events within a few weeks.
7) CREATES NEW STATE MEMBERSHIPS: New state memberships from "recreational"
non-tournament activities.
8) FREE ADVERTISING OF STATE EVENTS: Advertising state association tournaments
and events from more facilities.
9) BUILDS STRONGER BONDS BEWTEEN CLUBS AND SATE: Better communication between
state association and facilities from proven effective non-tournament programs.
10) NEW RECREATIONAL MARKET: Opens up new women and youth market that may not
be ready for tournament play.
HOW IT WORKS:
The $3 fee represents a "guest fee" to participate in non-tournament events.
This is like a guest fee at a facility that allows a prospective member to try
it out before they join.
These "guests" will originate from four groups:
1) Club members
2) Club members guests
3) ISRA/USRA members guests
4) Non-club members
WHY $3 (BUDGET)?
The $3 fee represents the cost for liability coverage for one year from the
national USRA organization, which also provides additional coverage for the
host facility, participants and program staff.
The $3 fee also includes an official USRA membership card that can be presented
later for discounts on future participation in additional recreational events
or an upgrade to full USRA membership.
Actual costs are:
Liability Insurance For One Year $ 1.92
Membership Card Plus Mailing $ 1.00
Total Cost $ 2.92
WHAT DOES A $3 FEE INCLUDE?
The $3 fee includes only the liability insurance and membership card. Future
discounts for various programs are determined by each host facility. The fee
does allow for participation in all state non-tournament events.
Includes:
1) INSURANCE FOR ONE YEAR during non-tournament state events.
2) MEMBERSHIP CARD, which can be used for, discounts and participation in
non-tournament state events.
3) MAILINGS AND NEWSLETTERS of upcoming events at local facilities (paid by the
local host clubs).
WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE $3 FEE?
Not Included: (But can be upgraded to the full $20 fee at any time)
1) COMPETITIVE TOURNAMENT LICENSE
2) RACQUETBALL MAGAZINE SUBSRIPTION
3) STATE NEWSLETTER
4) RULEBOOK
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
MAILINGS: The state newsletter will promote the $3 membership and
upcoming events.
Clubs may also request a mail list to for their own mailings of state
recreational events.
PAYMENTS: All fees will be paid to the state association and then sent to
the national association.
Receipts will be issued until a membership card is received from the national
association.
Data entry into the state and national computers as a $3 member.
Event staff will have an updated list with all current state members.
Event participants must show a current membership card, receipt or pay the $3
fee.
EVENTS: Host clubs will decide on the type of events, event fees, dates
and times offered.
Host clubs must honor all state members at fees predetermined by state
officials.
---
I will be glad to share more information about this idea on request,
Jordan
PS> NG Readers, feel free to copy this (or print this) and send to your state
or national association.
Subject: Re: $3 Recreational USRA Membership Proposal
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 23:21:43 -0700
From: mdavern
Jordan has presented a $3.00 membership idea in an earlier post.
Jordan, while I think that this is a nice idea, I would rather go the route of trying to give
people their money's worth at the full $20 fee. If we can show value, I don't think we lose a
single person for $17 per year extra. In my opinion, we don't have the time. people or resources
on the $7.00 per person we get now from a membership to market racquetball effectively at the
state level. Charging $3.00 for a lower level of services only gives us more people to deal with
and even less money to reach them. I wish we could charge more and be more effective with that
money. The one thing that you and I do agree on, is we have to find more creative ways to reach
the recreational player. I think that our state organization does a decent job in reaching
tournament players. Anything could be done better, but we do a good job putting on our
tournaments. We need to reach the non-tournament player. Jordan, how many magazine subscriptions
do you have that are less than $20 for a 1/2 year subscription? Money is not the issue. For
non-tournament players, the issue is value. Can we provide a package that they would want with
the resources that we have. Right now, everyone thinks in terms of tournament play. If you don't
play tournaments, why join the ISRA/USRA? I hope that we can work together to develop a program
that can meet the needs of the rec player without having to rely on anything else but what we
have right here in Illinois. We do not need anything additional from the USRA to grow this sport
and we are not going to get anything additional from the national office. So let's stop looking
for solutions in Colorado Springs and find solutions that work in Champaign, Springfield and
Peoria as well as the Chicago suburbs.
(Geez...I'm listening to too many political speaches...)
Mike Davern.
Tennis Across America http://www.uspta.org/taa.htm
Subject: Re: to sanction or not to sanction
Date: 15 Oct 1999 01:26:41 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
OK, I think we all agree that active USRA players think the USRA is a good
value.
The problem is, less then 1 half of 1 percent of all the recreational players
care about tournaments- so there IS NO VALUE to non-USRA tournament members.
The USRA is "trying to lead a horse (non USRA members) to water AND make it
drink (pay $20 membership)."
I am just "trying to lead the horse where its ALREADY headed!"
I do think I would have a greater success. Hey, I already HAVE!
I have created more racquetball players than the USRA has. I have created more
USRA members then the USRA has.
But that's only because the USRA is a organization that ONLY sanctions
tournaments for USRA members. I highly doubt any person will go out and
purchase a $20 USRA membership just to get a magazine or rule book without
first having another player get that person interested in recreational play.
Just think of what the USRA could do if they sanctioned and offered
non-tournament events!
Hey, just the current USRA member base alone will participate; any extra
non-USRA members would be "gravy".
Jordan
Jeff wrote>
>$20.00 is definitely worth it *if* you compete seriously (ie, if you
>travel to play). It's worth it to know what's going on elsewhere,
>especially if you might play there sometime; and for the organization and
>consistancy a sanctioned tournament provides.
Subject: Re: membership up!
Date: 15 Oct 1999 01:41:15 GMT
From: " self "
> I just got hold of our Racquetball Club membership roster for this
> month. We are now back over the 250 mark for the first time in almost a
> decade - up from just over 200 at the beginning of last year! Let's
> see... carry the five... divide by 0... that's almost 20%! And this is
> over a period of falling employment at our company (the Racquetball Club
> is part of an employee recreation association - in the defense industry,
> of all places).
>
> Maybe the rumors of racquetball's demise have been slightly
> exaggerated. I am convinced that solid grass-roots (read club level)
> programming is the key to our future success.
Great news! But I don't know if I completely agree - that is, if 'programming'
has to mean 'an official-type program'. I have noticed our local city-run
courts filling up to capacity these days, and there is absolutely no support
from the city other than providing the facilities; there is no club pro, no
tourneys, no ladders, no instruction, no juniors, etc. In our case, just having
a fairly upscale populace living near pleasant and reasonably priced facilities
seems to be increasing the number of players through word of mouth... I guess
'programming' could only make it better, though!
Greg Stoner
Subject: Re: kgeels alive and well!
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:20:05 -0500
From: "David A. Robert"
Kathy/NG,
In between RB games this evening, the person I was playing mentioned
an idea that she had. Shari Coplen, said that what was needed to get
more people involved with RB, the powers that be needed to have the
top ten RB players go around major cities in the U.S. with the portable
court, and set this up in malls. Most major malls have at least one place
in them that we could setup the glass court, have seats and show what
the sport is all about.
Malls have a lot of kids hanging around in them, along with parents and
older adults. This could be done on a 5-6 week schedule. If this is too
often then do it on a 8 week schedule. Think of all the people that would
see this sport demonstrated. I can think of three malls here in St. Louis
that could pull this off.
Have the top players from each region attend. Do this from Thursday
through Sunday or Saturday. You could have a mini-tournament in
quite a few major cities all across the country.
You could have demonstrations, lessons, RB techniques, play with the
pro, show off all of the different type racquets.
The next question is how do you pay for this? You could get all of the
major RB companies that sell equipment put into a fund to pull this off.
Seeing Ed's resonse about going after all the major colleges around the
country, was a very good idea. Ed, I am trying to get something going
with the folks out at KCU out in Kansas City.
We can either do something about our problem or just sit back and
watch the sport die!?!?!?!
Racquetball is picking up here in the St. Louis area. I have noticed more
and more people start or take up the sport again.
I was at a tournament out in Georgetown, Kansas a couple of weeks ago.
I was listening in on a conversation between 3-4 older men in their 45-55
age group. They were saying that they did not have any program like the
one that Jim Murphy runs in the St. Louis area for high school kids. There
weren't any young kids taking up the sport in the KC area. Something
needed to be done to get some new/fresh blood into the sport. They are
running out of good/different players to play RB with.
Dave St. Louis (Just my .02 cents.)
kgeels wrote:
> I, for one, am going to still try to actively espouse my
> closely held
> > views, but still try to give respect to others while I do it. Even
> though they
> > must be laughably wrong, since they disagree with me . I know I
> haven't
> > always done this, and I'm sure I'll 'slip' sooner rather than later,
> but that's
> > my current plan.
> >
> > Greg Stoner
>
> Greg -
> I agree with you. I am also glad for Ed's presence, and would much
> rather have him be here and be annoying than not be here at all.
> Based on some of our non-public discussions, when responding to him, I
> have two options:
> A) patiently and logically review our differences (this is as
> constructive as those Pig Flying instructions I've been given lately
> while negotiating alligators in the swamp)
> OR
> B) sticking my tongue out at him.
>
> The pigs have got money, they pay well. Ed just gives me gas.
>
> Thanks for the feedback. If I said at the end of my posts "aw shucks, I
> don't mean it, Ed's a great guy!" that would take all the fun out of
> it. If he takes it in fun, that's great. If he gets pissed, that's what
> I'm talkin' about baby! Then he can stick one more sig line on his card
> - taught Geels how to street-fight with the best. But until I see a
> seizure, I have failed.
>
> Kathy "peace, love, and understanding is for sissies" Geels
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Subject: Have both Sanctioned & Non-Sanctioned tournaments!
Date: 16 Oct 1999 03:49:36 GMT
From: (JordanISRA)
Have both Sanctioned & Non-Sanctioned tournaments!
Has anyone, besides a Pro-Stop, tried a "USRA Sanctioned Tournament" at the
same time as a "House Non-Sanctioned Tournament"?
Example:
1) Have a "Sanctioned Tournament" for "Open, A & B" skill levels.
2) At the same time have a "Non-Sanction Tournament" for "A, B, C & D" skill
levels.
3) Allow all first round losers of the "Sanctioned Tournament" to move into the
"Non-Sanctioned" tournament if they lost the first round- a type of double
elimination.
Since most players don't care about consolation games or ranking points, but
most players LIKE to see consolation offered, why not do BOTH!
Instead of a Sanctioned Consolation round, all FIRST ROUND losers are entered
into the Non-Sanctioned tournament.
This gives more value to the Sanctioned Player while providing non-sanctioned
players with quality tournament players without the sanction cost.
If this is not allowed by the USRA, does this also mean a club can NOT let
anyone else use the courts during a tournament?
Jordan (opening a can of worms)
Subject: Re: Racquetball on TV? Why not? Reasons
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:52:17 -0800
From: "Paul Reynolds"
Peter et al.,
While I commend you for your eternal optimism with respect to rball in the
public forum. I believe that the rball populace is missing the point with
respect to further development of rball. If the demand existed for
televised rball it would currently exist.
The fact of the matter is that development of the sport is the key. One can
run a
pro-stop, have 300 entrants, and still not develop the sport. This may be
maintaining the sport, but the degree of development is questionable.
So what do we do!!!
Assuming that we are ALL motivated by the growth of the sport as opposed to
simply increasing the exposure of the sport, it would seem imperative to me
that we focus energy on further development.
It seems to me that too much energy is expended upon what programming
objectives that have been prioritized to be in the best interest of the
association (USRA).
Are these objectives also considering the best interests of the state
associations? This, I believe is a very important question.
For state organizations to prosper, developmental activities must be
supported on the national level. What this means is that nation policies
should support state efforts that seek to provide an environment that is
both educational and challenging to the novice and the seasoned competitor.
Now that one has created a following of the sport, television exposure is no
longer an issue. Enterprising entities will be quick to fill this void.
The point is:
that if one is interested in rball as a spectators sport, creating a fan
base on the grass roots level is the key to developing a demand for rball on
television.
Tracy Drury
Washington Racquetball Association President
Team E-Force
and all around good guy!
Subject: USRA, Luke & R-Ball Promotion (my view)
Date: 04 Jan 2000 21:54:55 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
Luke suggests the reason for court conversions is because players buy shoes
from non-racquetball supportive companies. The REAL reason courts are converted
to other activities is MONEY at that particular facility.
If a facility thinks they can please more members, attract new members and make
more money, they would convert any part of the facility.
Forget about the small number (25,000) of USRA members supporting these
racquetball companies, target the 8-9 million recreational members to JOIN a
club.
By USRA numbers, there are 2,800 racquetball players for every facility (3000
facilities, 8.4 million players).
Lets be realistic and bring the number of racquetball memberships to 600,000
(based on 200 members per club), and I am "padding" the numbers with 200
racquetball players per facility.
Sure its great that the USRA obtained 440 new USRA members this year, but if
all those 440 members WERE existing club members, this did not bring in any NEW
CLUB MEMBERSHIPS that keep clubs from converting courts.
The USRA, racquetball companies and clubs need to target non-club members to
start playing racquetball and purchase club memberships. Eventually these new
players will consume more "pure" racquetball equipment from racquetball
companies.
But the USRA only target USRA members for tournaments to promote racquetball.
Last time I checked, most tournament players were existing club members.
Until the USRA begins to offer non-tournament activities to clubs to help
promote new club memberships, the USRA shouldn't dare begin to tell anyone how
to promote racquetball.
By the way, I believe I can speak for the average racquetball facility, be it a
YMCA, Park District or private club, since I have worked for all and understand
how they operate.
My suggestion to the USRA, purchase more liability coverage for your non-profit
organization and start using your players and contacts to host beginner free
clinics and events to "non-club" and "non-USRA" members.
This way, the USRA will increase more players, increase relations with clubs
and eventually receive more USRA memberships (including increasing sales to
racquetball companies).
If I were a Racquetball company providing the USRA with funds, I would do so
only if they USRA adopted a program as mentioned above to promote racquetball
to non-USRA members.
Jordan Kahn
USRA Member & Racquetball Instructor
Previously…
Racquetball Director of a YMCA
Pro and Staff at a Park District
AmPRO Certified
On State USRA/ISRA Governing Board
----
CHANGING TIMES by Luke St. Onge, USRA Magazine Jan-Feb. 2000 Issue>
If you were a business under siege by a competitor trying to undermine you or
take your floor space (like spinning or kick-boxing) would you support that
industry? Of course not! Yet every time a player selects a
non-racquetball-specific product from a company that does not support
racquetball directly, that's exactly what happens. Your dollars go toward
spinning, kick-boxing, or the next fad that threatens your court floor space.
It's like shooting yourself in the foot.
Subject: try again: Plans within USRA
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:39:25 +0000
From: Heather Fender
I thought I would begin the new millennium with a brief description of
some of the initiatives brought forth by the manufacturers and the USRA
during the past couple of years. I have read with interest many of the
comments presented in this forum and feel that this information may
clarify some areas of concerns.
Four years ago the USRA and the SGMA (Sporting Goods Manufacturer
Association) initiated an initiative to stimulate racquetball
participation within the USA. A meeting of the ‘minds’ was organized by
the SGMA and almost anyone who had a position in racquetball was invited
. . . all major organizations, club venues, IHRSA, ‘Killshot’ magazine,
all manufacturers, professional and amateur players, instructors, and
major people of influence (Marty, Hogan, Doug Ganim, etc.) The reason
for the meeting was to develop a plan to stop the decline of racquetball
participation and attract new people to the sport.
After many hours of meetings, phone calls, and conversations, the group
developed a three step plan -
1. stop the removal of courts within court clubs and develop a
relationship with the club owner/manager.
2. develop a ‘major’ event to attract outside sponsors, develop
credibility within and outside the sport.
3. have a full time or part time educated racquetball programmer in
every club in the USA.
The implementation and development of the above was left with the USRA
and SGMA. The USRA would provide the information, manpower and
expertise and the SGMA the funds to develop the programs.
In 1995 the first phase was completed and implemented. Over 2,000
videos (illustrating two club owners talking about the benefits of
racquetball to their club) and 2,000 workbooks (cookbook on developing
racquetball programs) were sent to every IHRSA club that had courts and
any other club designated by state directors. The effect was hard to
measure, but the decline in participation did level off in 1996 and many
of the clubs responded positively to the effort.
Phase II was initiated with the U.S. OPEN, although some initial funding
(three year commitment) was provided by the SGMA, the entire
responsibility now lies with the USRA. The OPEN provided the
credibility needed to attract outside sponsors and also injected a new
stimulus to the sport. The ESPN production, although not at an ideal
time, still provides expanded visibility for the sport.
Phase III will begin this year with AmPRO and the manufacturers as major
contributors. A plan has been developed by the USRA and manufacturers
to infiltrate every club within the US with information and personnel.
Thanks to Wilson, the original sponsor of AmPRO, who realized the
problem and understood that an entire industry effort was needed to
resolve the issues, and accordingly gave up their ‘ownership’ of AmPRO
and opened participation to all manufacturers. Now, every manufacturer
has committed to the following effort -
1. Every club with racquetball courts will be contacted by phone or
personally within the next 12 months and surveyed. They will be placed
in one of three categories - a) developed b) developing c) undeveloped
programs.
2. Programs will be developed in the above three categories and
individually taken to each club and presented to the club
owner/manager. AmPRO personnel and manufacturers’ players will be
implementing this phase.
3. Follow-up by the AmPRO person will be required within the next six
months.
4. The second phase will be a similar program with colleges, high
schools, YMCAs, and JCCs contacted.
So as you can see, the USRA and manufacturers have actively been
involved in attempting to promote and attract new people to the sport.
Although many other projects have been introduced over the last five
years - expanded involvement in the IHRSA convention, Leadership
Conference, Ektelon/USRA club development program - the above combined
industry program is, without question, the most comprehensive. I
encourage everyone participating in this forum to continue their input,
recommendations, and suggestions, and I invite inquiries at any time.-
Jim Hiser
--
Heather R. Fender
USRA Customer Service
Subject: Re: try again: Plans within USRA
Date: 06 Jan 2000 08:31:43 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
I happen to instruct at one of the larger IHRSA member clubs in Illinois.
Like 99% of all racquetball facilities, this is a multi-sport club with
racquetball being only a small part of the total membership revenue.
I had the chance to see the (IHRSA) videotape produced to encourage club
managers/owners not to convert racquetball courts.
The tape was very informative, if you were "pro" racquetball, but seemed too
simple in its message, hire a pro and players will come and bring lots of money
to your club.
Well this particular IHRSA club had 2 of the top pros in the country, both
experienced clinic instructors at the USRA Olympic level and both past Olympic
Team players.
Did it help the racquetball department grow? Not really.
Why? The players that knew who the pros are were already playing, the
recreational players had no idea and non-members never found out.
Basically racquetball promotions need not be "instructing" players as much as
"offering" new players and existing "part-time" players/members programs such
as challenge mixers and challenge courts.
Most new players want to try a sport out. This does not mean taking lessons or
playing in a tournament.
This does mean, borrowing equipment, reading basic rules and meeting other
players to play.
How can the USRA and other organizations help AND still increase memberships,
players and sell equipment?
1.) Target test facilities around the country.
2.) Loan them FREE rental racquets, eyeguards and balls.
3.) Provide FREE posters, flyers, artwork and camera ready newspaper ads to
promote racquetball.
4.) Club gets to keep all equipment FREE if they set aside FREE play days
scheduled by the USRA in advanced.
5.) Clubs may use their own staff or have FREE use of local "sponsored" players
and volunteer local USRA players.
Now the USRA and other organizations are putting their money (funds & grants)
where their mouth is- directly into the clubs to use to get new players on the
courts.
Funny how many tournaments there are with state volunteers working all weekend
for the SAME few players?
If half as much effort were to be used to run weekly "beginner mixers" at clubs
you would increase the number of new players over 100%. The key is consistency,
same club every week at the same time.
Does the above work? Yes, I have done this at several clubs. It only fails when
the club stops running these programs due to staffing, cost or lack of
interest.
Why haven't I continued to do this? Work. But my work NOW produces new younger
players (and pays better).
This year I have the opportunity to run these programs (mixers) at 2 clubs in
my area. It will be interesting to see which club takes full advantage of this
opportunity by offering these new players reasons to JOIN their facility.
Earlier today I produced my first "photo-glossy" color mini poster promoting
upcoming classes I teach. I already have a giant foam board display with flyers
attached in the club promoting this weeks FREE CLINICS (13 offered) and next
weeks start of group lessons.
The "flyer" is a two sided letter size brochure with dates, times, and
information on pre-school classes (2 levels), youth programs (instruction &
teams) and adult classes. This is just the "winter" session flyer, which also
includes 20 FREE clinics (13 first half and 7 second half of session).
Last month our club challenge the next towns club to a 5 on 5 round robin.
Flyers and posters were at each facility and both clubs had filled their teams
plus waiting lists in just 3 days of displaying poster with sign-up. Not bad
for setting this up for the first time and in only 2 weeks of advanced notice.
This is all done on my own time with my own money.
If I can do this without any "outside" funding or grants, surely the USRA, with
all their "professional" staff can come up with a similar project.
Jordan Kahn
PS. The USRA sells "clothes" through the Racquetball Magazine, why can't the
USRA sell "promotional" posters, clip art and generic brochure masters to
clubs? Most YMCAs, JCCs and Park Districts would purchase these "tools" if
there were contacted 9 months in advance to place on "next" years budget
(that's how they operate and purchase in advance).
**Gee, I should get into "promotion" before my brain explodes!
---
> Heather R. Fender wrote>
> USRA Customer Service
> After many hours of meetings, phone calls, and conversations, the
group
> developed a three step plan -
> 1. stop the removal of courts within court clubs and develop a
> relationship with the club owner/manager.
> 2. develop a 'major' event to attract outside sponsors, develop
> credibility within and outside the sport.
> 3. have a full time or part time educated racquetball programmer in
> every club in the USA.
>
>
> Phase II was initiated with the U.S. OPEN, although some initial
>
> 1. Every club with racquetball courts will be contacted by phone or
> personally within the next 12 months and surveyed. They will be
placed
> in one of three categories - a) developed b) developing c) undeveloped
> programs.
> 2. Programs will be developed in the above three categories and
> individually taken to each club and presented to the club
> owner/manager. AmPRO personnel and manufacturers' players will be
> implementing this phase.
> 3. Follow-up by the AmPRO person will be required within the next six
> months.
> 4. The second phase will be a similar program with colleges, high
> schools, YMCAs, and JCCs contacted.
>
> So as you can see, the USRA and manufacturers have actively been
> involved in attempting to promote and attract new people to the sport.
> Although many other projects have been introduced over the last five
> years - expanded involvement in the IHRSA convention, Leadership
> Conference, Ektelon/USRA club development program - the above combined
> industry program is, without question, the most comprehensive. I
> encourage everyone participating in this forum to continue their
input,
> recommendations, and suggestions, and I invite inquiries at any time.-
> Jim Hiser
>
> --
> Heather R. Fender
> USRA Customer Service
Subject: Re: Let me present a scenario
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:28:24 -0600
From: "C. Marvin"
Ds.... the USRA is not selling consumer goods! This is that target group to
which the 2% response to marketing refers. Racquetball is an "activity". As
such, people may try the game and then decide if they like it or not. This
ultimately influences their decision to continue. The goal of the USRA
should be to get people to try it. Then it is up to the local state
association and local club pro/players to ensure the newbie receives an
enthusiastic welcome. Make sure they leanr and have a good time to ensure
they return to play again. They do not need someone to wax their butts the
first time out as this will totally discourage further participation in the
game. Fundamentally, the problem runs deeper than just the USRA.
Craig
Subject: Re: try again: Plans within USRA
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 08:55:55 -0600
From: Ed Arias
Excellent post Jordan!!!
1. Like 99% of all racquetball facilities, this is a multi-sport club with
racquetball being only a small part of the total membership revenue.
2. Basically racquetball promotions need not be "instructing" players as much as
"offering" new players and existing "part-time" players/members programs such
as challenge mixers and challenge courts.
Most new players want to try a sport out. This does not mean taking lessons or
playing in a tournament.
3. 1.) Target test facilities around the country.
2.) Loan them FREE rental racquets, eyeguards and balls.
3.) Provide FREE posters, flyers, artwork and camera ready newspaper ads to
promote racquetball.
4.) Club gets to keep all equipment FREE if they set aside FREE play days
scheduled by the USRA in advanced.
5.) Clubs may use their own staff or have FREE use of local "sponsored"
players
and volunteer local USRA players.
I've heard of this being tried before...it was somewhat of a success in racquetball
(clubs) across america. It's called bringing the industry together for the
fundamental common good...I'm glad to hear from Professor Hiser that the industry
is headed in this direction.
Jordan, I think they are on their way...withall the problems you and I have faced
in our own little "privately funded" promotions though, I can imagine how hard it
can be for the industry to really make such an effort. But it looks like it's
happening...but they need your help with great stuff like this.
What I am eluding to above...the similar promotion I've heard of before (for those
who are new) was a little effort called Racquetball Across America...of which
Jordan was one of the principal instigators. Long story...and you've had enough of
them for a while ;-)
But this is what we need at the Leadership Conference...to pass to other states who
don't have a clue.
Jordan, I don't know what the situation is in Illinois...but you should continue to
press them on trying more of this type of promotion out. Go to those board
meetings and get heard...BUT PLEASE, try to work with people...don't tell them what
to do and that there are no options to the plan. Give them a little at a
time...you know how you can be sometimes...just ease back on the gas a bit ;-)
Ed.
Jordan Kahn wrote:
> I happen to instruct at one of the larger IHRSA member clubs in Illinois.
>
> Like 99% of all racquetball facilities, this is a multi-sport club with
> racquetball being only a small part of the total membership revenue.
>
> I had the chance to see the (IHRSA) videotape produced to encourage club
> managers/owners not to convert racquetball courts.
>
> The tape was very informative, if you were "pro" racquetball, but seemed too
> simple in its message, hire a pro and players will come and bring lots of money
> to your club.
>
> Well this particular IHRSA club had 2 of the top pros in the country, both
> experienced clinic instructors at the USRA Olympic level and both past Olympic
> Team players.
>
> Did it help the racquetball department grow? Not really.
>
> Why? The players that knew who the pros are were already playing, the
> recreational players had no idea and non-members never found out.
>
> Basically racquetball promotions need not be "instructing" players as much as
> "offering" new players and existing "part-time" players/members programs such
> as challenge mixers and challenge courts.
>
> Most new players want to try a sport out. This does not mean taking lessons or
> playing in a tournament.
>
> This does mean, borrowing equipment, reading basic rules and meeting other
> players to play.
>
> How can the USRA and other organizations help AND still increase memberships,
> players and sell equipment?
>
> 1.) Target test facilities around the country.
> 2.) Loan them FREE rental racquets, eyeguards and balls.
> 3.) Provide FREE posters, flyers, artwork and camera ready newspaper ads to
> promote racquetball.
> 4.) Club gets to keep all equipment FREE if they set aside FREE play days
> scheduled by the USRA in advanced.
> 5.) Clubs may use their own staff or have FREE use of local "sponsored" players
> and volunteer local USRA players.
>
> Now the USRA and other organizations are putting their money (funds & grants)
> where their mouth is- directly into the clubs to use to get new players on the
> courts.
>
> Funny how many tournaments there are with state volunteers working all weekend
> for the SAME few players?
>
> If half as much effort were to be used to run weekly "beginner mixers" at clubs
> you would increase the number of new players over 100%. The key is consistency,
> same club every week at the same time.
>
> Does the above work? Yes, I have done this at several clubs. It only fails when
> the club stops running these programs due to staffing, cost or lack of
> interest.
>
> Why haven't I continued to do this? Work. But my work NOW produces new younger
> players (and pays better).
>
> This year I have the opportunity to run these programs (mixers) at 2 clubs in
> my area. It will be interesting to see which club takes full advantage of this
> opportunity by offering these new players reasons to JOIN their facility.
>
> Earlier today I produced my first "photo-glossy" color mini poster promoting
> upcoming classes I teach. I already have a giant foam board display with flyers
> attached in the club promoting this weeks FREE CLINICS (13 offered) and next
> weeks start of group lessons.
>
> The "flyer" is a two sided letter size brochure with dates, times, and
> information on pre-school classes (2 levels), youth programs (instruction &
> teams) and adult classes. This is just the "winter" session flyer, which also
> includes 20 FREE clinics (13 first half and 7 second half of session).
>
> Last month our club challenge the next towns club to a 5 on 5 round robin.
> Flyers and posters were at each facility and both clubs had filled their teams
> plus waiting lists in just 3 days of displaying poster with sign-up. Not bad
> for setting this up for the first time and in only 2 weeks of advanced notice.
>
> This is all done on my own time with my own money.
>
> If I can do this without any "outside" funding or grants, surely the USRA, with
> all their "professional" staff can come up with a similar project.
>
> Jordan Kahn
> PS. The USRA sells "clothes" through the Racquetball Magazine, why can't the
> USRA sell "promotional" posters, clip art and generic brochure masters to
> clubs? Most YMCAs, JCCs and Park Districts would purchase these "tools" if
> there were contacted 9 months in advance to place on "next" years budget
> (that's how they operate and purchase in advance).
>
> **Gee, I should get into "promotion" before my brain explodes!
> ---
>
> > Heather R. Fender wrote>
> > USRA Customer Service
> 719-635-5396 ext.12090
> > After many hours of meetings, phone calls, and conversations, the
> group
> > developed a three step plan -
> > 1. stop the removal of courts within court clubs and develop a
> > relationship with the club owner/manager.
> > 2. develop a 'major' event to attract outside sponsors, develop
> > credibility within and outside the sport.
> > 3. have a full time or part time educated racquetball programmer in
> > every club in the USA.
> >
> >
> > Phase II was initiated with the U.S. OPEN, although some initial
> >
> > 1. Every club with racquetball courts will be contacted by phone or
> > personally within the next 12 months and surveyed. They will be
> placed
> > in one of three categories - a) developed b) developing c) undeveloped
> > programs.
> > 2. Programs will be developed in the above three categories and
> > individually taken to each club and presented to the club
> > owner/manager. AmPRO personnel and manufacturers' players will be
> > implementing this phase.
> > 3. Follow-up by the AmPRO person will be required within the next six
> > months.
> > 4. The second phase will be a similar program with colleges, high
> > schools, YMCAs, and JCCs contacted.
> >
> > So as you can see, the USRA and manufacturers have actively been
> > involved in attempting to promote and attract new people to the sport.
> > Although many other projects have been introduced over the last five
> > years - expanded involvement in the IHRSA convention, Leadership
> > Conference, Ektelon/USRA club development program - the above combined
> > industry program is, without question, the most comprehensive. I
> > encourage everyone participating in this forum to continue their
> input,
> > recommendations, and suggestions, and I invite inquiries at any time.-
> > Jim Hiser
> >
> > --
> > Heather R. Fender
> > USRA Customer Service
> > 719-635-5396 ext.12090
>
Subject: Re: HELP! We may be losing courts
Date: 09 Jan 2000 20:26:25 GMT
From: (Jordan Kahn)
Organization:
I worked for a YMCA for years, as a Director, then years later as a "part time"
Racquetball Coordinator/Pro.
The Y originally had 3 courts, added 4 including two complete lower level glass
side walls, then eventually converted those four (panel courts) to fitness.
Its not "how many members" play racquetball, but how many NEW members can be
attracted with new programs.
Stu, you mentioned 40 - 60 family memberships would be lost if racquetball
courts were taken out.
Sorry to say that is "small" compared to the number of new memberships that be
generated by "fitness" conversions or even "organized" health care if operating
with a existing clinic/hospital.
Yes, I do know numbers, especially at the YMCA. I have spent many hours
tracking court usage, members, classes, permanent court time, and challenge
court and regular open play.
It took me years to convince the Y bosses to make it mandatory for all players
to "check-in" before playing. Not just the person who paid for the court, but
"all" players, be it singles, cutthroat or doubles and I would enforce these
new check-in policies since my office was next to the courts.
We found many players not checking in because they were "non-members". Our
guest fees increased about 25% for just racquetball players.
I tried to explain to the players that "checking in" may be redundant, but this
would help the Y understand how many members use the courts. I left after
about a year and the Y immediately began converting those 4 courts.
The main reason for conversion of the courts was to increase "fitness" space
that was needed do to over crowding.
Racquetball players seem to forget how many "fitness" people can utilize a
racquetball court within the same time.
Here are the "real" numbers.
One racquetball court equals two racquetball players for one hour.
One racquetball court equals 36 fitness users for one hour. This is based on
three 20-minute cycles of 12 people working at one time.
Now add afternoon (lunch), afterwork and yes, weekend times. Racquetball just
can't compete.
So forget about comparing "numbers", you will always lose.
Instead, go after the "wide variety" of activities the YMCA offers to the
community.
Unfortunately, when "any" facility gets the idea to convert courts, it is
usually too late.
Good luck,
Jordan
PS. Don't waste time bickering with the Y. Start getting as many players
organized to get a "group" discount at another racquetball facility. Money
talks. Pull your memberships out as quickly as possible. This may not effect
your Y, but another Y may hear how much membership revenue was lost and think
twice about converting courts this way.
---
From: "Stu Young"
Date: Sun, 09 January 2000 09:44 AM EST
I have heard/read all the horror stories mentioned hear about losing courts.
I never dreamed it could happen to me. But now the club where I play,
Courtside Athletic Club in Lynchburg, Virginia, is planning on closing its
doors in about 2 years.
It is not because the courts are under utilized. It is because the club is
owned by an organization that is more focused on elderly rehabilitation.
Now here is the kicker. Courtside is planning on leasing space at a
brandspanking new YMCA being planned on the outskirts of Lynchburg. This
ought to be great, racquetball began at a Y, of course the Y will include
courts in its plans. Not so. The Y had a survey done in the area, excluding
any club members, to determine the facilities people wanted most.
Racquetball did not fare well. I must also mention this survey was complete
prior to the announcement that Courtside would close.
We have petitioned the Y, provided utilization figures, written to the board
and the local paper, and we have also begged to get courts in the new Y. We
have shown how the lack of courts will reduce membership anywhere from 40 to
60 single and family memberships. All to no avail, it does not look good so
far. The Y's position is we need to raise the money to cover the cost of
courts if we want them.
What I am after here is suggestions, can/will the USRA help, can the
Virginia State organization help, can equipment manufacturers help (many
people buy ektelon shoes). Has anyone persuaded a facility to add courts and
if so how? Is this a prime candidate for some USRA "Three Step Plan" Phase
III support?
We are just a small club, maybe forty active rball players. Not all are USRA
members. The area though is big enough, with the right kind of assistance,
to grow that membership. We just need some assistance getting it going,
Kathy you up for relocation, Ed, Jordan, anyone.
thanks in advance
Stu "hoping to keep racquetball alive and well in Lynchburg, VA" Young
Subject: Re: HELP! We may be losing courts
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:02:02 -0600
From: Ed Arias
MIKE D5172 wrote:
> Just goes to show you that the Y, as a major corporation, does not care about a
> small faction of it's members. We have three Y's where I live and two of them
> keep their courts up fairly well while the third rarely does any maintenance,
> ie. replace lights, court refinishing. And they even closed three of their
> courts down. One is being used as a kiddy sitting room and the other two for
> storage. I couldn't belive it when I saw it a few weeks ago. I'll never go
> back to that Y again.
This is one place where racquetball fails. Went out with a buddy of mine tonight
and, of course, over a few beers and burgers...the stories start to flow. One
story was that he was originally from another club here in the MadCity...but when
the racquetball director went on maternity leave, part of the rb program went
south...so he left for greener pastures (my club). Well, there club also took out
a couple courts and the rb program has never quite recovered even with her back.
This tells me just how important a programmer can be...here's a gal who went on a 6
month maternity leave and the rb program fell apart. If my buddy...who's sponsored
by Wilson had stepped in and filled her shoes, this may not have happened.
Course...my friend already HAS a life and it certainly isn't his fault. But
perhaps one of the other sponsored players could have been in the right situation
to do so.
Next weekend...the Leadership Conference convenes and the USRA sets forth the third
initiative for repopulating the sport...a lil'program called AmPRO. Incentives are
going to |